Our Leaders
The difference between a good summer program and an exceptional summer program is the quality of its leaders. One of the main ingredients to the “secret sauce” of what sets Apogee apart from other organizations is our incredible leaders. We hire people who are not only committed to the success of our students, but are also responsible, compassionate, and just plain fun. Simply put, our leaders love working with kids and they love the outdoors. Students look up to our leaders as role models and overwhelmingly rate them with the highest marks on end-of-trip surveys. Here are a few more details and important information about Apogee’s selective hiring processes, our extensive leader training program, and our leaders’ qualifications and certifications.
- We look for individuals with outstanding leadership skills and wide-ranging experience working with young people in the outdoors.
- We hire leaders from all corners of the United States who come to us from a range of backgrounds including top colleges and universities and related industries (teachers, wilderness therapy instructors, coaches, etc.).
- Every applicant fills out a detailed application and is carefully interviewed by our directors. We conduct multiple rounds of interviews before hiring our leaders and are able to be highly selective – we hire approximately one out of every ten applicants.
- We check references thoroughly and perform a full background check (SORI, CORI, and when applicable, driving record) on every staff member.
- Our leaders are a minimum of 20 years old, and most are between 21 and 26.
- Leader training takes place over the course of an intensive, two week-long program at Apogee’s headquarters in Brunswick, Maine. We work with our leaders both in the classroom and in the field to cover everything from safety and group dynamics to trip logistics and outdoor skills. Leaders also spend time reviewing student files before the start of the program so they are familiar with each individual in their group. By the end of their training, leaders are well prepared to safely and effectively lead their group on the adventure of a lifetime.
- All of our leaders are certified in Wilderness First Aid and CPR. Many also hold higher wilderness certifications, such as Wilderness First Responder or EMT. Additionally, all of our trips that engage in swimming activities will have at least one leader certified as a Wilderness Lifeguard.
- Apogee enjoys a very high leader return rate. Many veteran leaders return for multiple summers.
Read more below to meet a few of our outstanding Trip Leaders.
Meet Our Leaders
Sam Butler (he/him)
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
School: Pomona College, Class of 2026
Apogee Leading Experience: Alps Explorer ‘26, New England Mountains and Coast ‘24, and Maine Coast Junior ‘24
Certifications: Wilderness First Aid and CPR
Favorite Outdoor Activities: Hiking, mountain biking, and climbing
Highlights of the past year: Sam has spent his senior year at Pomona making the most of California’s incredible landscapes. Between classes and track practice, he’s explored Yosemite, Sequoia & Kings Canyon, and Big Sur – a pretty unbeatable list for one year, if you ask us.
Where you can find Sam when he is not exploring California’s beauty:He’s probably out on a run with his college track team, strumming his guitar, or reading a really good book.
More reasons to love Sam: Sam is a Pomona graduate with a degree in Math. During his junior year, he spent a semester studying abroad in France, where he coached a local soccer club. When he’s home (or on campus, they go to the same school!), he spends lots of time with his twin sister. He’s also mastered the art of juggling while running, which was the perfect warmup for his Apogee challenge: juggling while hiking the Tour du Mont Blanc.
Benna McDermott (she/her)
Hastings-on-Hudson, New York
School: Dartmouth College, Class of 2026
Apogee Leading Experience: Dolomite Mountains & Croatian Coast ‘26, Iceland Mountains & Coast ‘25, New England Mountains & Coast ‘23, and Maine Coast Junior ‘23
Certifications: Wilderness First Aid, Wilderness Swim Safety, and CPR
Favorite Outdoor Activities: Skiing (backcountry, nordic, and downhill), hiking, and running
Highlights of the past year: Benna has been on the move this year, literally. She completed a beloved Dartmouth tradition: hiking 50 miles of the Appalachian Trail in 24 hours, finishing right in the middle of campus. She also planned and executed an unforgettable spring break trip to Machu Picchu with friends.
Where you can find Benna when she is not crushing miles on the AT: She’s usually deep into a board or card game, sampling every ice cream flavor she can find, or tackling the full lineup of New York Times games.
A few more reasons that Benna rocks: Benna is savoring her final semester at Dartmouth, including another campus tradition: swimming in the Connecticut River every day of the spring semester. In the colder months, she volunteered as a ski patroller, combining her love of snow with her knack for helping others. She’s fluent in Spanish after semesters in both Guatemala and Argentina. Benna is no stranger to Apogee, either – in addition to being a trip leader in 2023 and 2025, she also participated in three trips as an Apogee student: Vermont to Montreal, Pacific Coast, and Europe Coast to Coast.
Wylie Ocken (he/him)
Riverside, Connecticut
School: Hamilton College, Class of 2027
Apogee Leading Experience: Northwest Mountains & Coast ‘26 and New England Mountains & Coast ‘26
Certifications: Wilderness First Responder, Wilderness Swim Safety, and CPR
Favorite Outdoor Activities: Backpacking, trail running, snacking with a view, and swimming
Highlights of the past year: Wylie got after it this year! He ran the New York City Marathon to raise money for Type 1 diabetes, went skydiving, and hiked over 20 of the Adirondack High Peaks!
Where you can find Wylie when he’s not jumping out of planes: He is probably reading a good book, drawing, taking a nap-ogee, or hanging out with friends.
Just a few more (very) fun facts about Wylie: Wylie plays varsity lacrosse and club rugby at Hamilton, and he also works as a tutor at a nearby middle school. When he is not playing sports, learning, or teaching, he’s likely off on an adventure. In the summer of 2024, Wylie backpacked across Europe with his brother. He is also a part of his school’s Dungeons & Dragons club!
Lily Hatrick (she/her)
Brunswick, Maine
School: Macalester College, Class of 2026
Apogee Leading Experience: Alaska Mountains & Coast ‘26, Maine’s Downeast Explorer ‘25 and New England Mountains & Coast ‘25
Certifications: Wilderness First Responder, Wilderness Swim Safety, and CPR
Favorite Outdoor Activities: Running, biking, kayaking, hammocking, and ice skating
Highlights of the past year: After spending the summer back home in Maine leading for Apogee, Lily returned to school for her senior year, where she ran cross country and track for Macalester one last time!
Where you can find Lily when she’s not on a run: She’s likely reading, snacking on popcorn with her roommates, hanging out with her cat, or singing and dancing.
More reasons to love Lily: She has coached girls’ lacrosse her whole life, and has competed for Macalester’s cross country and track teams while a student there. Lily spent a semester studying abroad in Stockholm, Sweden, where she hiked all over the island that she lived on with her wonderful host family. She also conducted geomorphological research in Glacier National Park a few summers ago. And speaking of national parks, Lily has completed an impressive number of Junior Ranger programs across the country!
Seth Grauer (he/him)
Salt Lake City, Utah
School: Carleton College, Class of 2026
Apogee Leading Experience: Europe Coast to Coast ‘26, Pacific Coast ‘25, Alaska Mountains & Coast ‘25, Cape Cod & the Islands ‘24, and Vermont to Montreal ‘24
Certifications: Wilderness First Aid, Wilderness Swim Safety, and CPR
Favorite Outdoor Activities: Biking (mountain, gravel and road), skiing, ultimate frisbee, hiking, running, and broomball (if you know, you know)
Highlights of the past year: Seth’s adventures took him to some incredible places last year. He studied food systems and agriculture in Oaxaca, Mexico, walked across Chequamegon Bay when it was frozen solid, and visited his co‑leaders on a trip to Colorado.
Where you can find Seth when he’s not out on a frozen lake: He’s likely reading, playing Wii Sports with friends, rewatching Friends, cheering on the Detroit Lions, or cooking up something delicious.
A few more fun facts that make Seth awesome: He has worked with the Carleton Food Recovery Network for the past three years, helping recover over 2,000 pounds of food each week! He also competed in a D1 ultimate frisbee tournament with his collegiate club team. On top of that, he has worked for the past few years as a peer coach at the Carleton Career Center, supporting his fellow students one‑on‑one as they searched and applied for jobs.
Ella Wacks (she/her)
New York, New York
Schools: Skidmore College, Class of 2028
Apogee Leading Experience: Colorado’s Rocky Mountains ‘26 and Maine Coast Junior ‘26
Certifications: Wilderness First Responder, Wilderness Swim Safety, and CPR
Favorite Outdoor Activities: Hiking, camping, and swimming in lakes
Highlights of the past year: Ella headed out west on a trip to Colorado this year! She adventured in Rocky Mountain National Park and saw some awesome wildlife.
Where you can find Ella when she’s not out adventuring: You will likely find her rock climbing, reading, watching the latest episode of Saturday Night Live, or hanging out with friends!
Facts that will make you say “Wow Ella rocks”: She is the president of Skidmore’s Outdoor Club, where she and her team work to facilitate amazing trips and events for her college campus and outdoors community! She has been able to do many incredible hikes throughout her life so far, but her favorite (so far) was in Majorca. She spent a semester teaching elementary school students poetry and was amazed by what they wrote and performed!